Y&R Spoilers: Can Billy Abbott Buy Phyllis Summers’s Loyalty Away from Victor Newman?

By Brian Martinez 10/30/2025


TL;DR: On October 30’s Young and the Restless, Billy Abbott (Jason Thompson) meets Phyllis Summers (Michelle Stafford) in secret to make her a desperate offer—abandon Victor Newman (Eric Braeden) and switch to the Abbott side in the corporate war over Cane Ashby’s stolen AI weapon targeting Jabot Cosmetics.

The corporate war that’s been brewing between the Abbotts and Newmans just reached its most critical moment. And it all comes down to one woman.

Phyllis Summers lit the match that started this inferno when she stole Cane Ashby’s powerful AI program and sold it straight to Victor Newman with one explicit goal—destroying Jack Abbott (Peter Bergman) and Jabot Cosmetics. After Jack and Billy Abbott declared all-out war on Victor following this betrayal, the Abbott brothers knew they needed a new strategy. Going head-to-head against Victor armed with cutting-edge technology? That’s a losing battle.

So they’re trying something different. Something risky. Something that could either save Jabot or expose just how desperate they’ve become.

On October 30th, Billy will sit down with Phyllis for what spoilers are calling a “covert exchange” to trade intel about the AI weapon. But this isn’t just an intelligence-gathering mission. Billy’s been authorized by Jack to make Phyllis an offer for anything she wants—and I mean ANYTHING—if she’ll betray Victor and switch sides.

The question everyone’s asking? Will Genoa City’s most notorious schemer actually take the deal, or is this just another opportunity for her to play both sides and maximize her own power?

What Happens When Billy Abbott Meets Phyllis Summers on October 30?

Billy Abbott meets Phyllis Summers in secret on October 30th to discuss Cane’s AI weapon and make her a stunning offer to betray Victor Newman.

This isn’t a casual coffee date between exes. This is a counter-intelligence operation launched by a desperate Jack Abbott who knows his family’s company is under siege. Billy’s walking into this meeting with a clear objective—probe the strength of the Victor-Phyllis alliance, figure out how they plan to deploy the AI against Jabot, and most importantly, determine whether Phyllis’s loyalty can be bought.

And here’s the thing—Jack has given Billy permission to offer Phyllis literally anything to switch sides. Money? Power? A position at Jabot? Whatever she wants, it’s on the table.

But there’s a massive problem with this plan. (Actually, there are several problems, but let’s start with the biggest one.)

Billy isn’t approaching a trusted ally or even a reliable ex-lover. He’s approaching a woman who has betrayed his brother multiple times, destroyed their fraternal relationship with an affair, and just days ago stole technology specifically to help Jack’s mortal enemy destroy their family company. If that’s not a red flag the size of Wisconsin, I don’t know what is!

The spoilers explicitly ask whether the information Phyllis provides during this meeting will be “the truth or a lie.” That phrasing alone should tell you everything you need to know about how much trust exists in this equation. Spoiler alert: ZERO. There is zero trust here.

Will Phyllis Summers Accept Billy Abbott’s Offer?

It’s unclear whether Phyllis Summers will accept Billy Abbott’s offer, but given her history, she’ll most likely use it to play both sides against each other for maximum profit.

Let’s talk about Phyllis’s track record for a second. This woman drugged Danny Romalotti to trap him into believing he fathered her child when she first arrived in Genoa City. That’s literally her origin story—manipulation as a survival tool. Her entire history is a masterclass in blackmail, deception, and betrayal, often directed at the people who love her most.

So when Billy sits across from her offering anything she wants, what’s she actually thinking?

Here’s what I believe is going through that calculating mind of hers: “How can I leverage this offer to get MORE from Victor while also keeping the Abbott door open as backup?”

The best-case scenario for the Abbotts? Phyllis accepts, they neutralize their greatest threat, and they gain an insider with intimate knowledge of Victor’s plans. The AI weapon gets turned against its new owner, and Victor’s greatest strength becomes his biggest vulnerability.

The worst-case scenario? Phyllis marches straight back to Victor and reports every word of Billy’s desperate proposition. This would expose the Abbotts’ entire counter-strategy, reveal just how vulnerable they feel, and allow Victor to anticipate their every move. Game over for Jabot.

But honestly? I don’t think either of those scenarios is what’s actually going to happen.

Phyllis didn’t steal that AI and hand it to Victor just to turn around and betray him the second Billy waves some cash. She’s playing a much longer game. This woman operates on pure self-interest, which means she’s going to find a way to extract value from BOTH families while committing to neither.

Could this mean she’ll accept Billy’s offer and then use it to negotiate better terms with Victor? Don’t be surprised if she tells Victor about the Abbott proposal and says, “They’re offering me X. What are YOU willing to give me to stay loyal?” That’s classic Phyllis—creating a bidding war for her allegiance and watching two powerful families destroy themselves trying to secure her loyalty.

Or maybe—and this is where it gets really interesting—she’s already planning to betray Victor anyway. There’s a popular fan theory circulating that Phyllis maintained a “back door” into the AI system, meaning she never actually gave Victor full control. In this scenario, she’s just waiting for the perfect moment to pull the rug out from under the Mustache and humiliate him publicly while seizing all the power for herself.

If that theory is true, Billy’s offer might actually play right into her hands. She could use the Abbotts as backup when she makes her move against Victor, effectively getting both families to do her dirty work while she emerges as the sole victor.

Why Is Jack Abbott So Desperate?

Jack Abbott is desperate because Phyllis Summers armed his greatest enemy with a technological weapon specifically designed to destroy his family’s company and legacy.

Let’s put this in perspective. Jack’s entire identity is wrapped up in protecting Jabot Cosmetics—the company his father John Abbott built. For Jack, losing Jabot isn’t just a business failure. It’s a profound personal betrayal of everything his father represented. His dad’s ghost has literally appeared to him throughout his life as a guiding force. That’s how deeply connected Jack is to this company and this legacy.

Now imagine learning that your ex-wife—a woman you loved despite her countless betrayals—has stolen cutting-edge AI technology and delivered it straight into the hands of Victor Newman. The same Victor Newman who once had Jack kidnapped and replaced with a Peruvian drug lord just to steal Jabot. The same Victor who’s made destroying Jack his life’s work for decades.

Phyllis didn’t just betray Jack. She gave Victor the ultimate weapon to fulfill his lifelong dream of annihilating the Abbott family once and for all.

That’s why Jack authorized Billy to offer Phyllis anything. He’s not thinking rationally at this point. He’s thinking survival. He’s thinking about his father’s legacy burning to the ground while Victor stands over the ashes laughing.

And that desperation? It makes him vulnerable. It makes him willing to trust someone who has proven time and again that she cannot be trusted. Victor knows this. And if Phyllis reports back to Victor about this meeting, he’ll know exactly how to exploit that desperation.

Could Phyllis Summers Be Playing Everyone?

Absolutely, and given her history, she probably is.

Here’s what we know about Phyllis Summers: she’s a survivor who views all relationships and alliances as transactional tools to secure her own advantage. Her loyalty has always been exclusively to herself. She’s not on Team Abbott or Team Newman—she’s on Team Phyllis, and she always has been.

Reading between the lines of these spoilers, I think we’re watching Phyllis set up the biggest power play of her life. She’s positioned herself as the critical asset in a war between Genoa City’s two most powerful families. Both sides need her. Both sides fear what she’ll do if she switches allegiances.

That’s an incredibly powerful position to be in.

Something tells me Phyllis is going to milk this situation for everything it’s worth. She’ll extract concessions from Victor. She’ll extract offers from the Abbotts. She’ll keep both sides guessing about her true intentions while she maneuvers herself into an even stronger position.

And here’s the really fascinating possibility—what if she’s planning to betray EVERYONE? What if her endgame isn’t helping either family win, but rather using their war to establish herself as a new independent power player in Genoa City?

If the fan theories about the AI back door are true, Phyllis could literally be controlling the ultimate weapon while letting both Victor and the Abbotts think they’re in charge. She could wait for them to weaken each other through this corporate warfare, then swoop in at the final moment, seize control of everything, and leave both legendary families in ruins.

Honestly? That sounds EXACTLY like something Phyllis Summers would do. And I am HERE for the chaos!

What About Victor Newman’s Trust Issues?

Great question! Victor Newman has decades of experience with scheming and manipulation. He’s orchestrated corporate takeovers, destroyed rivals, and crushed anyone who challenged his authority. The man didn’t build Newman Enterprises into a global empire by being naive.

So why in the WORLD would he trust Phyllis Summers?

His legendary hubris, that’s why. Victor has always believed he can control any situation and any person. He views Phyllis’s ruthlessness as a valuable tool—something he can harness and direct at his enemies. He thinks he’s using her.

But Victor’s greatest weakness has always been his inability to tolerate any challenge to his authority. His need for control is so absolute that he sometimes can’t see the threats right in front of him. He’s so focused on destroying Jack Abbott that he might be blind to the possibility that Phyllis is playing her own game entirely.

If Phyllis does betray Victor—and let’s be honest, it’s not a question of “if” but “when”—his humiliation will be even more devastating because he should have seen it coming. This is a man who’s been betrayed by family, allies, and business partners countless times. He knows better than to fully trust someone like Phyllis.

Yet here he is, potentially walking straight into a trap of his own making. Pride comes before the fall, and Victor’s pride might just be writing a check his empire can’t cash.

What’s Next for Billy Abbott, Phyllis Summers, and Victor Newman?

Could this mean Billy Abbott is about to get played harder than he’s ever been played before? Don’t be surprised if Phyllis’s “intel” about the AI weapon is carefully curated misinformation designed to send the Abbotts chasing dead ends while Victor advances his real strategy.

Given Phyllis’s history of manipulation, this covert meeting on October 30th likely won’t result in a clean yes-or-no answer. She’ll probably string Billy along with just enough truth mixed with lies to keep him uncertain. She might accept his offer conditionally, or she might tell him she needs time to think—anything to maintain her leverage with both sides.

This has all the makings of a spectacular double-cross, possibly a triple-cross, and if Phyllis is really at the top of her game, maybe even a quadruple-cross. (Is that even a thing? With Phyllis, anything’s possible!)

If I know these writers, they’re setting up a massive betrayal where everyone gets burned. Victor will discover too late that he never really controlled the AI. The Abbotts will realize that trying to buy Phyllis’s loyalty was a fool’s errand. And Phyllis? She’ll walk away with more power than she started with while both legacy families pick up the pieces.

The corporate war between the Abbotts and Newmans is about to get even messier, and the wildcard at the center of it all is about to remind everyone in Genoa City why you never, EVER underestimate Phyllis Summers.

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